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	<description>UX designer - Melbourne Australia</description>
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		<title>By: Enquiring Minds Want to Know &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting links for January 7th</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-14353</link>
		<dc:creator>Enquiring Minds Want to Know &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting links for January 7th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Death to email address re-entry &#124; James Mansfield &#8211; form email forms design ux ia [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-13678</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Does adding a &#039;confirm email address&#039; affect conversion on sign-up pages?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Back in 2008 Smashing Magazine did a survey on registration forms, and they found that only 18% of responding companies used email address re-entry (see http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/07/08/web-form-design-patterns-sign-up-forms-part-2/). I would...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Does adding a &#8216;confirm email address&#8217; affect conversion on sign-up pages?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Back in 2008 Smashing Magazine did a survey on registration forms, and they found that only 18% of responding companies used email address re-entry (see http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/07/08/web-form-design-patterns-sign-up-forms-part-2/). I would&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-10649</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 02:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the tiny amount of extra work it creates, double entry is my preferred method of minimising mistypes because it&#039;s simple and instant.

As for why it tends to be applied to email addresses only: it&#039;s because many users will be far more familiar with their mailing addresses than their email addresses. Not every form user is tech-savvy.

Asking for a second entry doesn&#039;t implicitly &quot;...assume I’ve gotten it wrong the first time&quot;, it only assumes the *possibility* that I&#039;ve gotten it wrong the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the tiny amount of extra work it creates, double entry is my preferred method of minimising mistypes because it&#8217;s simple and instant.</p>
<p>As for why it tends to be applied to email addresses only: it&#8217;s because many users will be far more familiar with their mailing addresses than their email addresses. Not every form user is tech-savvy.</p>
<p>Asking for a second entry doesn&#8217;t implicitly &#8220;&#8230;assume I’ve gotten it wrong the first time&#8221;, it only assumes the *possibility* that I&#8217;ve gotten it wrong the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-9260</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the added problem on my laptop where I can&#039;t re enter my email address the second time. This is so annoying, especially as then I can&#039;t proceed any further with any bookings etc. I have turned off my internet security program but with no success.  I thought the Qantas website might have been the problem but that works ok on another computer with no security program installed.?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the added problem on my laptop where I can&#8217;t re enter my email address the second time. This is so annoying, especially as then I can&#8217;t proceed any further with any bookings etc. I have turned off my internet security program but with no success.  I thought the Qantas website might have been the problem but that works ok on another computer with no security program installed.?????</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-8925</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James - I agree it would be awesome to avoid double-entry, and I&#039;m interested in Russell&#039;s experiments (something to try out on my next project).

Just wanted to mention that your estimate of &quot;1% reduced to 0.5%&quot; is actually much lower than a lot of real-life cases - my memory of a large NGO was that it was 5%+ bad email addresses that were reduced to &lt;1% after adding the confirmation field.  For high traffic sites this is a significant impact.

I agree that from a user perspective this shouldn&#039;t be a big deal, but it does generate a lot of waste in terms of &quot;back office&quot; handling for larger organisations when data is entered incorrectly.  So the cost to the business is often the reason for introducing such additional checks.

Regards, Grant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James &#8211; I agree it would be awesome to avoid double-entry, and I&#8217;m interested in Russell&#8217;s experiments (something to try out on my next project).</p>
<p>Just wanted to mention that your estimate of &#8220;1% reduced to 0.5%&#8221; is actually much lower than a lot of real-life cases &#8211; my memory of a large NGO was that it was 5%+ bad email addresses that were reduced to &lt;1% after adding the confirmation field.  For high traffic sites this is a significant impact.</p>
<p>I agree that from a user perspective this shouldn&#039;t be a big deal, but it does generate a lot of waste in terms of &quot;back office&quot; handling for larger organisations when data is entered incorrectly.  So the cost to the business is often the reason for introducing such additional checks.</p>
<p>Regards, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: Yoni</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-8786</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any of you have *specific* alternatives you&#039;d like to see prototyped, I&#039;d be happy to throw &#039;em up there (http://yoni.me/erp)

Just sayin&#039;.

~ yoni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any of you have *specific* alternatives you&#8217;d like to see prototyped, I&#8217;d be happy to throw &#8216;em up there (<a href="http://yoni.me/erp" rel="nofollow">http://yoni.me/erp</a>)</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>~ yoni</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-8785</link>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even worse is the password field being blanked out on a signup form. why can&#039;t i see the password i&#039;m typing in - forms assuming there is someone always peeking over my shoulder while i do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even worse is the password field being blanked out on a signup form. why can&#8217;t i see the password i&#8217;m typing in &#8211; forms assuming there is someone always peeking over my shoulder while i do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-8781</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this option really annoying myself, but I do think it is helpful. 

It has told me on more than several occasions I entered different Email address. To be fair it is usually the second one or because I am so irritated I mess up. 

I have had several users make this mistake before using this. They were mad because they did not receive messages or notifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this option really annoying myself, but I do think it is helpful. </p>
<p>It has told me on more than several occasions I entered different Email address. To be fair it is usually the second one or because I am so irritated I mess up. </p>
<p>I have had several users make this mistake before using this. They were mad because they did not receive messages or notifications.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory Sexton</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-8777</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory Sexton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic.  I agree, it seems madness to request re-entry, but unfortunately it is very necessary.  We have recently disabled the ability to copy and paste the email address into the 2nd field on our own website http://www.economycarhire.com because far too many people miss-spell their email address and this causes a lot of additional work for our back office.  BTW we do actually request the email address when they first start to make a booking, which is similar to the amazon sign-in process as this helps to identify repeat customers (which solves another common problem), then the customer re-enters their email address later in the process, very similar to what you advise in your last paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic.  I agree, it seems madness to request re-entry, but unfortunately it is very necessary.  We have recently disabled the ability to copy and paste the email address into the 2nd field on our own website <a href="http://www.economycarhire.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.economycarhire.com</a> because far too many people miss-spell their email address and this causes a lot of additional work for our back office.  BTW we do actually request the email address when they first start to make a booking, which is similar to the amazon sign-in process as this helps to identify repeat customers (which solves another common problem), then the customer re-enters their email address later in the process, very similar to what you advise in your last paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger K.</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesmansfield.id.au/death-to-email-address-re-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-8763</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but I&#039;ve seen SO many emails entered as www.mywebsite.com or fredbob.mywebsite.com etc.

Yes, the two examples above are taken care of with field validation, but I also do a lot of work with a particular industry that is new to technology and computers, so their frequency of errors is extremely high.

Double entry makes them stop, think a bit, turn their brain on, and then proceed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but I&#8217;ve seen SO many emails entered as <a href="http://www.mywebsite.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mywebsite.com</a> or fredbob.mywebsite.com etc.</p>
<p>Yes, the two examples above are taken care of with field validation, but I also do a lot of work with a particular industry that is new to technology and computers, so their frequency of errors is extremely high.</p>
<p>Double entry makes them stop, think a bit, turn their brain on, and then proceed.</p>
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